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Third baby on the way and need car advice

Ok, so my wife and I always joked we were destined to have an oops
baby. Although we took precautions to try and control when or if the
third would arrive, they always stress nothing is 100% preventative
like abstinence (and that ain't happening). So here we are, due with #3
in May/June and our smallish house just got a little smaller and our
two cars just became a little less roomy. I'm looking for advice on
what you would recommend given the following circumstances.

2003 manual Dodge Neon my wife hasn't learned to drive
2005 automatic Ford Escape
4-yr old, still need car seat - booster not an option until he grows more
2-yr old, still needs car seat

I thinking we should replace one of the two with a minivan, but
which one? The neon is great on gas and for short trips but we haven't
found time with kid 1 and kid 2 to teach her to drive it. The Escape is
nice because it's got a little more room and no learning curve for her
to drive it. Both are in really good shape with low miles. Luckily we
can commute together most days so one new-to-us vehicle should be ok.

Any recommendations on minivans? I'm a consumer reports reader and
am thinking about a pre-owned Honda or Toyota. What features are
important and which can we live without?

Re: Third baby on the way and need car advice

Cars or minivans have the same fuel consumption depending on the displacement of the engine! You need adequate room for some baby stuffs like strollers, bags, etc whenever you used the car with the baby on board. Also put in consideration reliability of car components like engine parts such as oil pan and other engine elements that keeps the car running smoothly.

Re: Third baby on the way and need car advice

I understand your position and you took the right decision when you thought about getting a larger car. Although I am not the best when it comes to cars I think an used Toyota wouldn't be a bad choice, you would save a lot of money considering a new car price, plus my boss owns one and he also has three kids and as far as I can remember he had never complained about any lack of space. If I were you I would just donate a car and sell the other though, since you will use only the car you'll buy, you won't need them anymore and you would be in the position to help some poor family out there.

Re: Third baby on the way and need car advice

When we had the third baby, we went straight for the Dodge Grand Caravan SXI model. It may not look fantastic and the inside is a bit plastic-y, but the power doors and stow and go seating are absolutely the best thing I've seen. The entire inside can basically fold away - perfect for hauling if you don't have the kids. The rear seats fold over into a bench for tailgating and there are plenty of 12v sockets for DVD players and such. The gas mileage is pretty darned good too.

I wouldn't be without it now. Luckily, I was able to keep my Boxster as "Daddy's Car". I take my 2 year old out in it, she loves it :-)

Re: Third baby on the way and need car advice

Amen to JeffB on figuring out a way to make a Jeep sound like a better idea than a minivan. I had to get rid of my TJ for the fam. I want a Commander but sticker-shock turned me off. I am going to keep my eyes open for a good deal on one now.

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Don't get the Windstar. It has a lousy quality rating. A Commander might be fun, but do you really want to get in and out of one all of the time with a bunch of child seats? I'm thinking car-based crossover here, sorry, unless you need the pulling power.

The Chrysler minivans used to have built-in childseats, I'm not certain if they do anymore.

Re: Third baby on the way and need car advice

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The automatic sliding door is a great thing, particularly when you're dropping off the kids at school. Minivans don't get very good gas mileage, but there are some new vehicles called crossovers that have the fuel efficiency of a car and space of a minivan.

The Ford windstar/freestar is a great value, and some have a nice 2/3 middle row seat that gives easy access to the back row. They also have a good amount of space between the rear window and third row, so in a rear end collision, the kids are a little safer.

Other than that, the only recommendation I have is to buy used, and don't go for luxury. The kids will completely destroy your car.

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We went for a Dodge Grand Caravan with the sto and go seating and the power side doors. Nothing will fit 3 car-seats across, so you'll have to fold or take out one of the second row seats to enable you to get 2/3 installed in the rear seat and the third in the second row. I don't think you can do that in a SUV...

Power side doors are a lifesaver when your hands are full. Worth the price.

Re: Third baby on the way and need car advice

So, first things first— you have to trade in the neon. Why? Go ahead and try to trade in an SUV (of any size) and see what you get for it. You'll fell like someone kicked you in the wallet, and then slapped you. Every car dealership in America (where I am guessing you live) has a sea of SUVs on the lot (keep this in mind for recommendation #2) and yours has virtually no value to them whatsoever. You know what they don't have, though? Good condition used cars that get decent gas mileage. Bingo, you've got one of those to sell. Gotta go with the neon.

Recco #2: Don't shy away from SUVs. Yeah, I know the gas saga, but there is absolutely no deal like the one you can get on an SUV right now. I just got a 1-yr-old loaded Jeep Commander at a price that is seriously outrageous (keep this in mind for recommendation #3). The sticker price on the car was $11k less than new, and we got it for $7k less than that. Why? There were 35 other SUVs taking up space on the lot, and an occupied space on a car lot is square footage that ain't makin' money. So, we got a car that stickers at about $36k new, for about $18k and has tons of warranty coverage left on it. A minivan, which is lucky not to share the SUV's bad gas reputation, doesn't have that problem. Therefore, while you might see the sharp difference from brand new sticker to gently used sticker, you won't see that extra $7k come off. Do you know how much gas $7k can buy?

My Commander, with a 5.7L Hemi V8, gets an estimated 18 MPG HWY versus the Toyota Sienna minivan at 21 MPG HWY (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm). So, for giving up an extra 3 MPG's I have a car that I love, even when I'm cutting that check every month. Admittedly, that 3 MPGs does equal an additional 54 miles per tank of gas...my crazy math lands that at 45 fill-ups per year vs. my current 52 fill-ups with the Jeep, assuming equal tank sizes. If you assume an average of $3.00 a gallon, that's an annual savings of $378, but don't forget my extra $7K savings on the car in the first place. That gives me a little over 18.5 years to enjoy the better financial decision before they draw even.

That brings me to my 3rd and final recommendation. The third row in this car is very comfortable for kids in car seats, and we've found that putting the two oldest kids in the very back, and the youngest in the middle allows us to keep one side of the middle row folded away/down adding tons of room for all the kid/baby paraphernalia, as well as easy in/out for the kids sitting in the back. I would recommend this car for a family your size without blinking. It is roomy, loaded with features, tough, AMERICAN MADE, and it looks great. Did I mention that it drives well, too, and has a class-leading towing capacity of 7,200 lbs.

Okay, I'm done. I hope that helped.

Re: Third baby on the way and need car advice

Great feedback. Thanks. We had ruled out SUV's but the financial perspective you provided has reopened our eyes to the market. We had a Pilot for a year and loved it but got rid of it because it was more than we could afford at the time. Now is might be a viable option again.

Thanks.

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